{"id":39501,"date":"2016-03-24T12:44:25","date_gmt":"2016-03-24T11:44:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/?p=39501"},"modified":"2016-03-24T13:01:12","modified_gmt":"2016-03-24T12:01:12","slug":"forsen-contra-p4wnyhof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/2016\/03\/24\/forsen-contra-p4wnyhof\/","title":{"rendered":"Forsen contra P4wnyhof"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.gosugamers.net\/files\/images\/news\/2014\/october\/28043-1412934748.jpg?resize=579%2C260\" alt=\"\" width=\"579\" height=\"260\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Habt Ihr den neuesten Beef in der Twitch-Streamer-Szene mitbekommen?<strong> Forsen<\/strong> wirft dem deutschen Hearthstone-Streamer <strong>P4wnyhof<\/strong> vor, er w\u00fcrde seinen Stream bei Twitch mit Viewer-Bots pushen. Wenn Ihr Euch jetzt fragt, um was es genau geht, hier eine kleine Erkl\u00e4rung: Eine M\u00f6glichkeit, um sich von der Masse an namenslosen Streamern abzuheben, ist, sich sogenannte Viewer-Bots zu mieten. Du zahlst Betrag X um Summe Y an Zuschauern zu bekommen. Die &#8222;Firma&#8220;, die den Service anbietet, wirft dann eine Art &#8222;Bots-Netz&#8220; an, um quasi Fake-Viewer zu erzeugen, die dann Deinen Stream schauen. Dadurch steht man weiter oben in der Liste und mehr neugierige Viewer schauen bei Dir rein. Soweit die Theorie!<\/p>\n<p>Forsen wirft dieses &#8222;Cheaten&#8220; nun P4wnyhof vor, weil er (laut seiner Begr\u00fcndung) im Vergleich zu anderen gro\u00dfen Twitch-Streamern vergleichsweise wenig Twitter-Follower h\u00e4tte, und weil bei ihm im Twitch-Chat kein Cancer-Spam (Leute spammen nonstop Emotes und anderen Bullshit) vorhanden sei. Gibt es eigentlich noch irgendwen, mit dem sich Forsen noch nicht angelegt hat, bzw. andere Hearthstone-Gr\u00f6\u00dfen, mit denen er noch keinen Beef hat? Warum k\u00fcmmert es Forsen \u00fcberhaupt, wie viele Zuschauer P4wnyhof hat? Ist er die Twitch-Polizei?<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"de\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">So today a forsenboy got evidence against p4wnyhof viewbots.Proud of you buddy!Hope <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Twitch\">@twitch<\/a> can act on this and purge this spreading disease<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Sebastian Fors (@ForsenSC2) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ForsenSC2\/status\/712071946356310016\">22. M\u00e4rz 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Ich pers\u00f6nlich finde den Chat bei P4wnyhof \u00e4u\u00dferst angenehm und sehe es eher positiv, dass bei ihm nicht so viel gespammt wird. Und ich muss ehrlich sagen, dass mir Forsen mittlerweile total auf den Sack geht. Dieses &#8222;Rebellen\/Bad Boy&#8220;-Image, was er sich aufgebaut hat, um die kleinen 16j\u00e4hrigen Twitch-Kinder zu beeindrucken, nehme ich ihm einfach nicht ab. Mag sein, dass er damit \u00e4u\u00dferst erfolgreich ist, weil eine Zielgruppe f\u00fcr sowas definitiv vorhanden ist, aber die Wirkung, die er damit erzielt, ist meiner Ansicht nach fahrl\u00e4ssig.<\/p>\n<p>Hat er seine Kinder\/Troll\/Hater-Armee einmal auf jemanden losgelassen, endet es meistens so&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/files\/2016\/03\/CeSuDw9WAAA7Yyl.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39506\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39506\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/files\/2016\/03\/CeSuDw9WAAA7Yyl.png?resize=579%2C154\" alt=\"CeSuDw9WAAA7Yyl\" width=\"579\" height=\"154\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/files\/2016\/03\/CeSuDw9WAAA7Yyl.png?w=808&amp;ssl=1 808w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/files\/2016\/03\/CeSuDw9WAAA7Yyl.png?resize=300%2C80&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/files\/2016\/03\/CeSuDw9WAAA7Yyl.png?resize=768%2C204&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stevinho.justnetwork.eu\/files\/2016\/03\/CeSuDw9WAAA7Yyl.png?resize=120%2C32&amp;ssl=1 120w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 579px) 100vw, 579px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ich habe gestern gelesen, dass P4wnyhof und seine Frau bereits Morddrohungen erhalten haben sollen. Selbst ein Forsen sollte langsam mal merken, was er mit so einer Nummer ausl\u00f6st und dass hier eindeutig Grenzen \u00fcberschritten werden. Ich habe gestern im Stream mit der Community \u00fcber die Sache diskutiert. Teilweise wurde da sogar Partei f\u00fcr Forsen ergriffen, da es ja &#8222;Beweise daf\u00fcr g\u00e4be&#8220;, dass P4wnyhof wirklich Viewer-Bots betreiben w\u00fcrde. Beweise w\u00e4ren in diesem Fall die vergleichsweise niedrigen Twitter-Follower und dass der Stream ja manchmal krass springen w\u00fcrde (was die Viewer angeht) &#8211; angeblich h\u00e4tte P4wnyhof mal innerhalb von 5 Minuten 6000 Viewer verloren. Kann das nicht eher ein Problem bei Twitch sein? Bei uns ist es auch manchmal so, dass die Viewerzahlen springen und unterschiedlich angezeigt werden.<\/p>\n<p>Wie auch immer: Gossip verkauft sich im Netz gut, und im Grunde werden beide Streamer von dieser Auseinandersetzung in Sachen Viewern profitieren. Trotzdem ist P4wnyhof in diesem Fall der Leidtragende und muss diesen Shitstorm \u00fcber sich ergehen lassen. Zu was die Hater in der Gaming-Szene f\u00e4hig sind, haben wir oft genug miterlebt. Das sind leider Menschen, die nichts anderes haben als ihr Internet-Leben und sich zu 100% mit ihrem jeweiligen Lieblingsstreamer identifizieren k\u00f6nnen. Sie sehen so einen Beef als pers\u00f6nlichen Angriff. Was f\u00fcr eine starke Emotion Hass ist, l\u00e4sst sich sehr sch\u00f6n am &#8222;Drachenlord-Ph\u00e4nomen&#8220; nachvollziehen. Von daher hoffe ich sehr f\u00fcr Mats, dass er und seine Frau unbeschadet aus der Sache rauskommen. Forsen und die ganzen Hater zu ignorieren, scheint hier in meinen Augen die richtige Herangehensweise &#8211; und ich wei\u00df selbst, wie schwer das ist.<\/p>\n<p>Ansonsten hoffe ich pers\u00f6nlich, dass Forsen zeitnah mal so richtig auf den Sack f\u00e4llt. Mittlerweile hat der Mann einen richtigen Gott-Komplex entwickelt und meint, es st\u00fcnde ihm zu, \u00fcber alles und jeden zu urteilen bzw. zu sanktionieren. Ich w\u00fcrde mir w\u00fcnschen, dass gr\u00f6\u00dfere Turnier-Veranstalter das genauso sehen und ihn einfach nicht mehr einladen. Das f\u00e4llt nat\u00fcrlich schwer, da er bei einer Turnier-Teilnahme nat\u00fcrlich ordentlich Viewer mitbringt. Trotzdem sollte man sich dar\u00fcber im Klaren sein, wof\u00fcr er steht und was er ausstrahlt. Will man sowas unterst\u00fctzen?<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Habt Ihr den neuesten Beef in der Twitch-Streamer-Szene mitbekommen? Forsen wirft dem deutschen Hearthstone-Streamer P4wnyhof vor, er w\u00fcrde seinen Stream bei Twitch mit Viewer-Bots pushen. Wenn Ihr Euch jetzt fragt, um was es genau geht, hier eine kleine Erkl\u00e4rung: Eine M\u00f6glichkeit, um sich von der Masse an namenslosen Streamern abzuheben, ist, sich sogenannte Viewer-Bots zu [&hellip;]<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4,10],"tags":[1294,3265,859],"class_list":["post-39501","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gaming","category-nachgedacht","tag-hearthstone","tag-streamer","tag-twitch"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - 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